Comments on: How Teaching Experience Makes a Difference http://parentsacrossamerica.org Mon, 20 May 2013 22:36:00 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.4.2 By: Mel Riddile http://parentsacrossamerica.org/how-teaching-experience-makes-a-difference/comment-page-1/#comment-39 Mel Riddile Wed, 31 Aug 2011 18:57:52 +0000 http://parentsacrossamerica.org/#comment-39 The explanation is simple. Small classes and experienced teachers for their own kids. Large classes and inexperienced teachers for other peoples' kids. The explanation is simple. Small classes and experienced teachers for their own kids. Large classes and inexperienced teachers for other peoples’ kids.

]]> By: Julie Woestehoff: New Illinois Law: Education Reform or Mere Distraction? | Stars on Stars Confidential http://parentsacrossamerica.org/how-teaching-experience-makes-a-difference/comment-page-1/#comment-38 Julie Woestehoff: New Illinois Law: Education Reform or Mere Distraction? | Stars on Stars Confidential Wed, 15 Jun 2011 17:38:12 +0000 http://parentsacrossamerica.org/#comment-38 [...] seniority less important in firing decisions. While no one wants their child to have a bad teacher, parents do want teachers with solid credentials and experience. Too often in the recent past, districts have fired excellent older teachers in what looks more [...] [...] seniority less important in firing decisions. While no one wants their child to have a bad teacher, parents do want teachers with solid credentials and experience. Too often in the recent past, districts have fired excellent older teachers in what looks more [...]

]]> By: Julie Woestehoff: New Illinois Law: Education Reform or Mere Distraction? | moregoodstuff.info http://parentsacrossamerica.org/how-teaching-experience-makes-a-difference/comment-page-1/#comment-37 Julie Woestehoff: New Illinois Law: Education Reform or Mere Distraction? | moregoodstuff.info Wed, 15 Jun 2011 16:46:44 +0000 http://parentsacrossamerica.org/#comment-37 [...] seniority less important in firing decisions. While no one wants their child to have a bad teacher, parents do want teachers with solid credentials and experience. Too often in the recent past, districts have fired excellent older teachers in what looks more [...] [...] seniority less important in firing decisions. While no one wants their child to have a bad teacher, parents do want teachers with solid credentials and experience. Too often in the recent past, districts have fired excellent older teachers in what looks more [...]

]]> By: Parents United for Responsible Education » Blog Archive » Historic school reform or a distraction? http://parentsacrossamerica.org/how-teaching-experience-makes-a-difference/comment-page-1/#comment-36 Parents United for Responsible Education » Blog Archive » Historic school reform or a distraction? Tue, 14 Jun 2011 18:48:47 +0000 http://parentsacrossamerica.org/#comment-36 [...] seniority less important in firing decisions. While no one wants their child to have a bad teacher, parents do want teachers with solid credentials and experience. Too often in the recent past, districts have fired excellent older teachers in what looks more [...] [...] seniority less important in firing decisions. While no one wants their child to have a bad teacher, parents do want teachers with solid credentials and experience. Too often in the recent past, districts have fired excellent older teachers in what looks more [...]

]]> By: Sign our petition to Congress against education cuts now! « Parents Across America http://parentsacrossamerica.org/how-teaching-experience-makes-a-difference/comment-page-1/#comment-35 Sign our petition to Congress against education cuts now! « Parents Across America Sun, 27 Mar 2011 19:13:46 +0000 http://parentsacrossamerica.org/#comment-35 [...] from teachers.  Be sure you don’t sign that petition by mistake; since along with class size, teacher experience matters [...] [...] from teachers.  Be sure you don’t sign that petition by mistake; since along with class size, teacher experience matters [...]

]]> By: Hal http://parentsacrossamerica.org/how-teaching-experience-makes-a-difference/comment-page-1/#comment-34 Hal Sat, 19 Mar 2011 16:45:16 +0000 http://parentsacrossamerica.org/#comment-34 I think this is a very interesting article that adds value to the discussion over teach effectiveness and tangentially to the pay structure of the profession. I am left with a few unanswered questions after reading this article and looking through the charts. First, the Experience Matters chart seems to show that uncertified teachers are the best math teachers. I intuitively have trouble believing this but wonder which group of teachers are included in these numbers. Some uncertified teachers are not certified because they are experts in their fields and others have just not been able, financially or otherwise, to get their certification. Second, I have trouble with using the absolute test scores to compare teachers. The reality is that with seniority comes choice of class to teach and the most experienced teachers often choose the highest performing students. So, comparing the test scores of a 20-year vet teaching an honors class with a first year teacher of a remedial class does not give a very good comparison. This also applies to teachers in low performing schools and often Teach For America teachers. I think the debate is almost as important as the answer but am disappointed when the debate ends and violence or political games take the day. Thanks for everyone's thoughts and empathy for our country's schools, students, and teachers! I think this is a very interesting article that adds value to the discussion over teach effectiveness and tangentially to the pay structure of the profession. I am left with a few unanswered questions after reading this article and looking through the charts.

First, the Experience Matters chart seems to show that uncertified teachers are the best math teachers. I intuitively have trouble believing this but wonder which group of teachers are included in these numbers. Some uncertified teachers are not certified because they are experts in their fields and others have just not been able, financially or otherwise, to get their certification.

Second, I have trouble with using the absolute test scores to compare teachers. The reality is that with seniority comes choice of class to teach and the most experienced teachers often choose the highest performing students. So, comparing the test scores of a 20-year vet teaching an honors class with a first year teacher of a remedial class does not give a very good comparison. This also applies to teachers in low performing schools and often Teach For America teachers.

I think the debate is almost as important as the answer but am disappointed when the debate ends and violence or political games take the day. Thanks for everyone’s thoughts and empathy for our country’s schools, students, and teachers!

]]> By: Joe http://parentsacrossamerica.org/how-teaching-experience-makes-a-difference/comment-page-1/#comment-33 Joe Sat, 05 Mar 2011 00:49:35 +0000 http://parentsacrossamerica.org/#comment-33 The sad part about this whole thing is that there is no need for teacher layoffs and nobody cares about that.Nobody has come up with how this system of eliminating seniority will work.,inaccurrate test scores which Bloomberg and his cronies have been faking for years,principal biasis,lower salary for my budget.,,get rid of people who don't agree and dare to voice their opinion.At this point ther is a surplus in the budget,nobody knows how many people are retiring or leaving,but let's put out ridiculous numbers and scare everyone so that the Education mayor and his puppets in the press can get their way.i think this is a plan to do everything possible to the public schools and allow the mayor's rich buddies to open more and more charter schools in the vacated building Notice you never see a plan for what will happen when they close a school. HOW SAD! The sad part about this whole thing is that there is no need for teacher layoffs and nobody cares about that.Nobody has come up with how this system of eliminating seniority will work.,inaccurrate test scores which Bloomberg and his cronies have been faking for years,principal biasis,lower salary for my budget.,,get rid of people who don’t agree and dare to voice their opinion.At this point ther is a surplus in the budget,nobody knows how many people are retiring or leaving,but let’s put out ridiculous numbers and scare everyone so that the Education mayor and his puppets in the press can get their way.i think this is a plan to do everything possible to the public schools and allow the mayor’s rich buddies to open more and more charter schools in the vacated building Notice you never see a plan for what will happen when they close a school. HOW SAD!

]]> By: Kira http://parentsacrossamerica.org/how-teaching-experience-makes-a-difference/comment-page-1/#comment-32 Kira Tue, 01 Mar 2011 00:57:00 +0000 http://parentsacrossamerica.org/#comment-32 Thanks for sending this out. Today (2/28/11) on Marketplace, Bill Gates was on pushing the idea that an "effective" teacher matters more than class size or anything else in the classroom. He failed to mention what makes a teacher effective: time on the job. Sad that his foundation is spending so much money to build a better mousetrap when it's already known what makes teachers more effective. Thanks for sending this out. Today (2/28/11) on Marketplace, Bill Gates was on pushing the idea that an “effective” teacher matters more than class size or anything else in the classroom. He failed to mention what makes a teacher effective: time on the job. Sad that his foundation is spending so much money to build a better mousetrap when it’s already known what makes teachers more effective.

]]> By: Kathy Sussell http://parentsacrossamerica.org/how-teaching-experience-makes-a-difference/comment-page-1/#comment-31 Kathy Sussell Sat, 26 Feb 2011 16:35:10 +0000 http://parentsacrossamerica.org/#comment-31 We need to stand behind our teachers and strengthen our unions not destroy them. Labor unions fought for reasonable work weeks, pensions, paid vacations and health care benefits. We cannot let their hard work be destroyed. The wealthiest Americans have to pay their fair share of taxes. We need to stop bailing out Wall Street and invest in public education. Teachers work extremely hard and need all the support we can give them. Experienced teachers are more expensive but they should be compensated for their years of dedicated service and sacrifice to our children. We need to stand behind our teachers and strengthen our unions not destroy them.
Labor unions fought for reasonable work weeks, pensions, paid vacations and health care benefits. We cannot let their hard work be destroyed. The wealthiest Americans have to pay their fair share of taxes. We need to stop bailing out Wall Street and invest in public education.
Teachers work extremely hard and need all the support we can give them. Experienced teachers are more expensive but they should be compensated for their years of dedicated service and sacrifice to our children.

]]> By: Gerry Morgan http://parentsacrossamerica.org/how-teaching-experience-makes-a-difference/comment-page-1/#comment-30 Gerry Morgan Fri, 25 Feb 2011 23:41:37 +0000 http://parentsacrossamerica.org/#comment-30 THANK YOU! I am appalled at the nerve of the politicians claiming to be doing the job "the people want". Very peculiar that others should be giving up some salary and collective bargaining but the politicians have decided not to lead by example!! I am very frustrated. Thanks for your hard work. THANK YOU! I am appalled at the nerve of the politicians claiming to be doing the job “the people want”. Very peculiar that others should be giving up some salary and collective bargaining but the politicians have decided not to lead by example!!

I am very frustrated.
Thanks for your hard work.

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